Decide not to ACK a packet

ChirpStack Application Server
#1

Hi,
First of all, great project :slight_smile:

I am using the MQTT integration to connect my LoRa Application to the App-Server and two questions arose:

  • Is it possible, from the application, to decide not to ACK a confirmed data up packet?
  • As far as I can see, I am only able to queue some data for RX. But it’s not possible to piggyback something on the downlink ACK frame that corresponds to a frame i just received on application/rx, right?

So what I want to do is basically:

  1. Send a confirmed Uplink from Device -> Lora(App)Server -> MQTT -> Application
  2. Process the packet in the application
  3. Decide if I want to send an ACK and what data I send with the ACK.
  4. push this data to MQTT -> Lora(App)Server -> Device

Is there a possibility to get this behavior without touching Loraserver or at least without breaking compability to LoRaWAN?

thanks,
regards
Tobias

#2

That’s a good question. I’d be very curious to know what the answer is. My guess is that immediate ack decisions aren’t really part of LoRaWAN.

#3

On LoRaserver configuration

sudo nano /etc/loraserver/loraserver.toml

# Get downlink data delay.
#
# This is the time that LoRa Server waits between forwarding data to the
# application-server and reading data from the queue. A higher value
# means that the application-server has more time to schedule a downlink
# queue item which can be processed within the same uplink/downlink
# transaction.
# Please note that this value has influence on the uplink/downlink
# roundtrip time. Setting this value too high means LoRa Server will be
# unable to respond to the device within its receive-window.
get_downlink_data_delay="100ms"

This means that it will wait for your app for 100 ms by default to post some valid downlink on device Queue.

The ACK is part of LoRAWAN specs so if you want not to touch it you will have no problems but the payload will join the ack packet if you deliver the data to app server in the configured time. If you are trying to have a faster downlink by using piggyback you should immediately make the device emit an ACK even if the payload is empty, a C++ library such LMIC should be doing this for you.

Hope it helped.

#4

Hello. Where is this information now on Chirpstack in 2020? I’ve read chirpstack-application-server.toml chirpstack-network-server.toml and chirpstack-gateway-bridge.toml but i haven’t found it. Thank you

#5

Hi Luis,
config files on your system does not need to contain all options. You can find all options for network server here for example: https://www.chirpstack.io/network-server/install/config/

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#6

Ok. Thank you Martin :grinning: